First let's look at the equity curves for some different approaches for picking the wing widths of these 43 DTE SPX iron butterflies.
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The equity curve charts show a range of different wing width approaches, from static point based. to dynamic delta and percentage based. Regardless of the approach for setting the wing width, there is a general trend of dynamic exits improving the P&L relative to the variations carried to expiration...this is one take away. Another take away, at least for me, is that none of these 32 variations appear tradeable using the rules that were tested.
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Here are a couple of points that I noticed from the trade metrics tables above:
1. Trades that were either exited at expiration or exited with a profit of 10% of the credit received, had the highest percentage of winners (73% - 83%)
2. The total dollars lost in a trade where the market touched either the long call or long put, far exceeded the dollars won in trades where this occurred...this is important! Price reversion did not occur.
For example, lets look at the trade metrics table above, for the 5% wing width iron butterfly. The sixth column of data (43 DTE (5pt-gr) (1/1) (25:25)), shows the metrics for the 5% iron butterfly that is either exited at expiration, OR exited for a loss of 25% of the credit received, OR exited at a profit of 25% of the credit received. In 19 of these 91 trades, the market touched the long put of the iron butterfly, and in 17 trades the market touched the long call of the iron butterfly. Of these 19 trades where the market touched the long put, 12 went on to become losers, losing a total of $13,535. The 7 that became winners only added $7,443. Of the 17 trades where the market touched the long call, 14 went on to become losers, losing a total of $14,798. The 3 that became winners only added $4,080.
In nearly all of the 32 strategy variations tested, this pattern plays out...in trades where the market touches either the long call or long put of the iron butterfly, the majority of these trades tend to become losers. In addition, the total losses associated with these "touch" trades far exceeds the dollars won in these same trades. If the market moves to your long strike, the market tends to continue it's movement in the same direction.
I think the equity curves and tables above should give you the information needed to answer the question in the title of this blog. Based on a range of wing widths of iron butterfly, the data seems to suggest that 43 DTE SPX butterflies should be adjusted rather than managed as "no touch" trades. In addition, the long strike location can be used as one input into your adjustment rules....say add another butter when the market gets within (or beyond) some percentage of the long strike location.
This post took much longer than I anticipated, but hopefully it provides you with some new ideas. In the next post I will get back to the 66 DTE iron condor options strategy posts, specifically looking at the 16 delta short strike...this strike is interesting!
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4 comments:
hi dave,
after i looked at the results, i agree standard iron butterfly is not profitable in the long run
so i thought short straddle might perform better, because theta benefit is around 50% higher than iron butterfly, imo
for iron butterfly i could only think some adjustments:
* closing the losing spread if it price touched the losing long leg and ride the winning spread till exp
* rolling the winning spread a little closer to the price (2/5 wing for example)
* rolling the losing spread as price touched the long leg
* any combination of above
i dont know if any of this adjustments worth some kind of profit
too much maintenance, i still prefer iron condor :D
nb: i notice IB works best at super high IV (2008) with 10% win exit
albert
Hi Albert,
Iron butters work, but not as no touch trades...they need to be adjusted.
A friend of mine routinely trades iron butters, but he structures them to have limited upside risk and puts them on below the market.
I typically put them on at the market, but also structure them to have limited upside risk. I don't trade them very often though.
If the market moves up, I typically add put spreads with the short at the same location as the original shorts, but the long is usually close than the longs in the other put spreads.
Thanks,
Dave
Stumbled on your blog. I just took a max loss with an IB earnings trade for Apple. Not much money relative to the portfolio, but annoying nonetheless.
This was basically a 1 day trade on the Feb 3 weekly. In those scenarios, where the the underlying has moved significantly above your Long strike, are there any possible adjustments that could be made?
Sounds like you sell additional Puts to collect premium. But with little time, that is nor really an option.
Thanks
I need to point out that my style of trading is different than yours:
1. I never trade options on single stocks - only indexes or futures...there are many reasons, but one is related to the size of typical moves of the underlying
2. I never enter earnings plays (see 1)
3. I never enter short term trades...my shortest trade would be in the 45 DTE range, but I'm most frequently in the 60+ DTE range
For upside adjustments on iron butterflies on the indexes with more than 30 DTE remaining, I buy back my short puts and resell them at a higher strike...I select the higher strike based on the slope of the T0 line and to raise the upside expiration graph above 0.
Thanks,
Dave
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